{"id":3076,"date":"2015-05-03T06:05:24","date_gmt":"2015-05-03T10:05:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.okraparadisefarms.com\/blog\/?p=3076"},"modified":"2015-05-03T06:08:48","modified_gmt":"2015-05-03T10:08:48","slug":"gmos-worse-risk-of-ruin-than-nuclear-power-nassim-nicholas-taleb","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.okraparadisefarms.com\/blog\/2015\/05\/gmos-worse-risk-of-ruin-than-nuclear-power-nassim-nicholas-taleb.html","title":{"rendered":"GMOs: worse risk of ruin than nuclear power &#8211;Nassim Nicholas Taleb"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\r\nBecause Genetically modified crops risk widespread ruin,\r\nthey should not be permitted without far greater scientific knowledge,\r\nfor which the burden of proof falls on those proposing GMOs, not those opposing,\r\nsay experts in risk and ruin.\r\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/agresearchmag.ars.usda.gov\/2003\/feb\/boll\">\r\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;border:none\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ars.usda.gov\/is\/graphics\/photos\/feb03\/k2742-10i.jpg\"><\/a>\r\nRisk management or mitigation may work for localized harm,\r\nbut GMOs risk widespread systemic damage, which is ruin, and to prevent that\r\nthe precautionary principal is needed:\r\n<blockquote style=\"font-size:100%\">\r\n<p>\r\nif an action or policy has a suspected risk\r\nof causing severe harm to the public domain (such as\r\ngeneral health or the environment), and in the absence\r\nof scientific near-certainty about the safety of the action,\r\nthe burden of proof about absence of harm falls on those\r\nproposing the action.\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n<p>\r\nA paper by Nassim Nicholas Taleb and co-authors lays out<!--more-->\r\n\r\n a formal\r\nstatisticial and risk-analyis theory of what is sufficient risk of ruin\r\nto apply the precautionary principle, using GMOs as their prime example.\r\n<blockquote style=\"font-size:100%\">\r\n<p>\r\nIn contrast to nuclear energy (which, as discussed in section 10.1\r\nabove, may or may not fall under the PP, depending on how and where\r\n(how widely) it is implemented), Genetically Modified Organisms,\r\nGMOs, fall squarely under the PP because of their systemic risk. The\r\n\r\nunderstanding of the risks is very limited and the scope of the\r\nimpacts are global both due to engineering approach replacing an\r\nevolutionary approach, and due to the use of monoculture.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n<p>\r\nIf you don&#8217;t know the risk of ruin of monoculture,\r\nread up on the boll weevil, for example  in this 2003 USDA writeup:\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/agresearchmag.ars.usda.gov\/2003\/feb\/boll\">\r\nWe Don&#8217;t Cotton to Boll Weevil &#8216;Round Here Anymore<\/a>,\r\n<blockquote style=\"font-size:100%\">\r\n<p>\r\nThe year before boll weevils marched into Georgia in 1915, the state\r\nproduced 2.8 million bales of cotton. Less than 10 years later,\r\nGeorgia&#8217;s annual cotton production had fallen to 600,000 bales. By\r\n1983, Georgia cotton production was down to 112,000 bales harvested\r\nfrom 115,000 acres.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n<p>\r\nFarther west, cotton monoculture and the weevil led to the dust bowl\r\nand sped on the Great Depression.\r\n<p>\r\nUnfortunately, eventual eradication of the boll weevil opened\r\nfields for Monsanto&#8217;s GMO cotton seeds, which are another monoculture,\r\nalready breeding disaster in mutant glyphosate-resistant weeds such\r\nas pigweed.\r\n<p>\r\nTaleb&#8217;s paper continues:\r\n<blockquote style=\"font-size:100%\">\r\n<p>\r\nLabeling the GMO approach &ldquo;scientific&#8221; betrays a very\r\npoor&mdash;indeed warped&mdash;understanding of probabilistic\r\npayoffs and risk management. A lack of observations of explicit harm\r\ndoes not show absence of hidden risks. Current models of complex\r\nsystems only contain the subset of reality that is accessible to the\r\nscientist. Nature is much richer than any model of it. To expose an\r\nentire system to something whose potential harm is not understood\r\nbecause extant models do not predict a negative outcome is not\r\njustifiable; the relevant variables may not have been adequately\r\nidentified.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n<p>\r\nThis is the same point made in Cosmos Episode 11 that\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.okraparadisefarms.com\/blog\/2014\/08\/short-term-profit-misusing-technical-know-how-beyond-understanding-of-nature-cosmos.html\">\r\nNeil deGrasse Tyson read but apparently didn&#8217;t understand<\/a>,\r\nof short-term profit misusing technical know-how beyond understanding of nature.\r\n<p>\r\nBack to the Taleb paper:\r\n<blockquote style=\"font-size:100%\">\r\n<p>\r\nGiven the limited oversight that is taking place on GMO\r\nintroductions in the US, and the global impact of those\r\nintroductions, we are precisely in the regime of the ruin problem. A\r\nrational consumer should say: We do not wish to pay&mdash;or have\r\nour descendants pay&mdash; for errors made by executives of\r\nMonsanto, who are financially incentivized to focus on quarterly\r\nprofits rather than long term global impacts. We should exert the\r\nprecautionary principle&mdash;our non-naive version&mdash; simply\r\nbecause we otherwise will discover errors with large impacts only\r\nafter considerable damage.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n<p>\r\nLarge effects such as irrigation-residue salt poisoning ancient Mesopotamian\r\nagriculture, as mentioned in\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.okraparadisefarms.com\/blog\/2014\/08\/short-term-profit-misusing-technical-know-how-beyond-understanding-of-nature-cosmos.html\">\r\nthat Cosmos episode<\/a>.\r\nOr the global effects of lead poisoning from leaded gasoline\r\ndescribed in\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.okraparadisefarms.com\/blog\/2014\/08\/n-deg-tyson-falls-for-the-misuse-of-the-authority-of-science-that-he-decried-in-cosmos.html\">\r\nCosmos Episode 7<\/a>.\r\n<p>\r\nThe paper is\r\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.fooledbyrandomness.com\/pp2.pdf\">\r\n&#8220;The Precautionary Principle (with Applications to the Genetic Modification of Organisms),&#8221;<\/a> by Nassim Nicholas Taleb, Rupert Read, Raphael Douady, Joseph Norman, and Yaneer Bar-Yam. Working Paper, September, NYU School of Engineering Working Paper Series, 4 September 2014.\r\n<p>\r\nLest anyone think nukes are off the hook:\r\n<blockquote style=\"font-size:100%\">\r\n<p>\r\nIn large quantities, we should worry about an unseen risk from\r\nnuclear energy and invoke the PP. In small quantities, it may be\r\nOK&mdash;how small we should determine by direct analysis, making\r\nsure threats never cease to be local.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<p>\r\nIn addition to the risks from nuclear energy use itself, we must\r\nkeep in mind the longer term risks associated with the storage of\r\nnuclear waste, which are compounded by the extended length of time\r\nthey remain hazardous. The problems of such longer term\r\n&ldquo;lifecycle&rdquo; effects is present in many different\r\nindustries. It arises not just for nuclear energy but also for\r\nfossil fuels and other sources of pollution, though the sheer\r\nduration of toxicity effects for nuclear waste, enduring for\r\nhundreds of thousands of years in some cases, makes this problem\r\nparticularly intense for nuclear power.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n<p>\r\nFossil-fuel-burning-induced climate change could also have extreme duration,\r\nas in which &#8220;the consequences can involve\r\ntotal irreversible ruin, such as the extinction of human\r\nbeings or all life on the planet.&#8221;\r\nThis is the type of extreme situation for which the precautionary principle\r\nshould be invoked, according to the first page of the paper.\r\nThe obvious solution is to stop burning fossil fuels.\r\nFortunately, we can do that, by switching to sun, wind, and solar power.\r\n<blockquote style=\"font-size:100%\">\r\n<p>\r\nAs we saw earlier we need to remain careful in limiting nuclear\r\nexposure &mdash;as other sources of pollution &mdash; to sources\r\nthat owing to their quantity do not allow for systemic effects.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n<p>\r\nSeems to me deliberately dumping radioactive Fukushima cooling water\r\ninto the Pacific Ocean has already turned nukes into a systemic problem.\r\nBut indeed Taleb&#8217;s point is good that GMOs are a more obvious risk\r\nof systemic ruin.\r\n<p>\r\nThe paper also includes this gem:\r\n<blockquote style=\"font-size:100%\">\r\n<p>\r\nInvoking the risk of famine as an alternative to GMOs is a deceitful\r\nstrategy, no different from urging people to play Russian roulette\r\nin order to get out of poverty.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<p>\r\nThe evocation of famine also prevents clear thinking about not just\r\nGMOs but also about global hunger. The idea that GMO crops will help\r\navert famine ignores evidence that the problem of global hunger is\r\ndue to poor economic and agricultural policies. Those who care about\r\nthe supply of food should advocate for an immediate impact on the\r\nproblem by reducing the amount of corn used for ethanol in the US,\r\nwhich burns food for fuel consuming over 40% of the US crop that\r\ncould provide enough food to feed 2\/3 of a billion people [14]\r\n<\/p>\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n<p>\r\nThe widespread dissemination of that deceitful strategy illustrates\r\nanother risk of GMOs.\r\nThe oligarchy of a handful of companies that produce them and their\r\nrelated agrochemicals has sufficiently corrupted the mass media\r\n(which in turn is almost completely owned by a handful of companies)\r\nthat big lies such as that are parrotted without scrutiny.\r\nThen there is the systemic risk of ruin to our political system,\r\nwhich is similarly influenced by GMO and agrochemical money.\r\n<p>\r\nThe precautionary principle indicates that the only way to avoid\r\nruin from GMOs is to stop using them.\r\nFortunately, we know how to do that:\r\nwinter cover crops plowed under before planting rotated diverse crops,\r\nwith weeds controlled through cultivating, with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.okraparadisefarms.com\/blog\/2012\/10\/crop-rotation-for-profit.html\">resulting yields\r\njust as high and more profit<\/a>.\r\n<p>\r\n -jsq\r\n<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Because Genetically modified crops risk widespread ruin, they should not be permitted without far greater scientific knowledge, for which the burden of proof falls on those proposing GMOs, not those opposing, say experts in risk and ruin. 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